tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14146381.post114605534524710813..comments2023-10-22T09:19:29.996-04:00Comments on I Hate The New Yorker: Who Heard What . . .zoe p.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02535684589288030978noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14146381.post-1146571423665080372006-05-02T08:03:00.000-04:002006-05-02T08:03:00.000-04:00"the wretched musicianship of one's own family" i..."the wretched musicianship of one's own family" i think bellamy must have meant mine - by all historical accounts, enthusiastic tuneless noisemakers . . . a legacy that has endured well into the 20th C . . .zoe p.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02535684589288030978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14146381.post-1146511663157142262006-05-01T15:27:00.000-04:002006-05-01T15:27:00.000-04:00Hi, I'm a bit late, but this reminds me of a pass...Hi, I'm a bit late, but this reminds me of a passage in Edward Bellamy's Looking Backward, in which Bellamy's hosts (from the future world of 1976) explain a music sharing system in which groups of musicians at different locations play (all day and all night? It seemed so), and listeners make telephone connections to the groups of their choice to hear the music they choose when they so choose. I was very impressed with this passage, the only part of the book I remember clearly 25 years after reading it. I mean, he was pretty close, even without predicting recording, broadcasting, or pledge drives.<BR/><BR/>Bellamy thinks this an enormous improvement over having no recourse but the wretched musicianship of one's own friends and family.the chocolate doctor מרת שאקאלאדhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17844956689807749316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14146381.post-1146070316662064812006-04-26T12:51:00.000-04:002006-04-26T12:51:00.000-04:00Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought. Sound as ...Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought. <BR/><BR/>Sound as affective seems like a commonplace that maybe applies to a small range of Hollywood film, or a particular film aesthetic, but counter-arguments, like yours, abound. I love silent offscreen violence. It's, like, my favorite kind. I think it's really interesting how arguments about multi-sensory cinema return to arguments about narrative . . .<BR/><BR/>And it just occured to me (I was just returning the post to add a PS, but then I found your comment) that the old "it appeals to the emotions" charge is/was so often leveled at images at other historical moments. Duh. Icon taboos, etc. <BR/><BR/>Oddly enough, I just heard Rick Altman give a talk - the basic structure was debunking myths about silent film sound (including the mood music melody thing), but some of the principles held for other types of film sound. Anyway, my advisor is always saying you've got to read Rick Altman, and so I did but he left me cold. In print. <BR/><BR/>Until I heard this talk and then I was thinking a mile a minute and making all kinds of exciting connections and I have to say, I think he's better live. He used voices in his talk. Like, fake stagey accents to read the texts he was using that described silent film sound. Fucking hilarious. So go figure.zoe p.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02535684589288030978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14146381.post-1146068218708194022006-04-26T12:16:00.000-04:002006-04-26T12:16:00.000-04:00That part about feeling through your ears is a bad...That part about feeling through your ears is a badly made point. Emotion expressions and experiences are a multi-channel phenomenon. Reading silently can be powerfully emotional in a way that doesn't really require an appeal to the eyes or the ears. Silent movies can be moving without accompaniment. And in movies generally, we experience emotion as a result of many cues, some visual, some aural, and some that are neither (such as responding to a narrative situation that isn't conveyed in a way that makes what we see or hear particulary important for our response, e.g., silent offscreen violence). <BR/><BR/>But sound is also really important.mznhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12336592183292185884noreply@blogger.com